Mm-hmm

... because it goes back to my architecture background.

So using material that is not normal to the fashion industry.

So that's something that I've always been gravitated to.

But if I had to pick my favorite challenge, it has to be my final collection for New York Fashion Week, because there was a couple significant, um, moment for that one is it w- it was the first collection that felt truly my design and the story that I'm trying to convey.

Because one of the things that people need to know is I'm a storyteller first before everything else.

So one of the thing I tried to convey is understanding different core memory of the deaf person and how to translate that into design.

Right?