Can you tell us about some of these projects that you've worked on and why you think they're important to the landowners or the groups involved?

Yeah.

So touching on the why it's important for the landowners first.

Um, in my experience, the farmers have been involved because they know it's the right thing to do by their community, by their industry, so that, I think that's the first motivator.

And they may never in a million years have thought of a wetland-As a legitimate mitigation option, utilize something that was on their property.

But they are part of a community.

It's their community, it's their livelihood, it's their history, it's their future, so they wanna do something right.

Looking five to 10 years ahead, how do you see wetlands fitting into farm systems and catchment thinking in places like Southland?