So I'm curious, did you both start out as solo? And then why did you bring in a co-host? And how has that benefited the business? And I'm assuming you're single, but I'd love to hear about your hosting set up.

Yeah, yeah.

I started solo.

It was solo episode, interview episode, cadence.

And so that was just to give me time to kind of like coordinate the interview.

And sometimes it's a little like herding cats.

Anybody who has done interview shows, you kind of know what it is.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.