Yeah, yeah.

And so seeing visual art and the, just the innate expressive capabilities of visual art in sharing experiencer narratives, I just found incredibly powerful.

I have a formal background in art.

I was a tenured professor at Virginia Commonwealth University.

I retired about four years ago from full-time teaching.

And when thinking about what I could possibly give back to the experiencer community, which is something that I believe very strongly in, I thought about, what would it look like to do a gallery where the first thing you're met with when you walk in the door is that this is a place for experiencers, that the art is being generated by people's experience, anomalous experiences, I should qualify.

Um, because so much of this stuff, and Tim actually, uh, when we start talking about the show a little more, Tim Carlson, uh, wrote, the essay that he wrote for the show talks about kind of the thread of Bigfoot through contemporary culture.

Oh, yeah.

True

... d- you always like to have a few things going on so that you can stay busy.

But because of this, she kind of works a little bit like clockwork in this regard.

Depending on the season, so if there was, like, a big award that was gonna be announced, a class that was gonna be scheduled, certain benchmarks, you know, in the academic calendar, Sasha would routinely come in at the same time of year with the exact same kinds of [laughs] feedback we'll call it.

[laughs]

But you've gotta talk about your gallery too, Justin.

[laughs] But that show will be opening in November, uh, along with a publication of work that I've been making over the past few years.

And then as Sasha mentioned, I also opened my own gallery earlier this year.