You know, what does that entail? Because their nests are pretty high up there, right? Like, how did you get into that? How did you learn that? What do you do?

Um, uh, let's see, I got into, um, uh, this guy, Chris McCready, um, like an old friend that I had worked with him in the desert for a job and he just, um, he loved nest searching.

And so kind of his just, uh, passion for it.

Um, like I picked up on it.

I've just, uh, it's, it's a fun way to interact with them.

And, uh, so yeah, just, uh, working for Chris McCready in the desert, um, and up at Mono Lake as well, um, was kind of where I sort of like got that as a, uh, an idea of something that would be a fun way to spend your time.

Um, And then when I got here, it was just these birds.

Yeah,