Could you tell me why you arrived at that type of policy briefly and what was the impetus for it?

Sure.

And I think the reason that we don't use the word sanctuary is that oftentimes that turn, you know, particularly Donald Trump tends to use a different definition that doesn't reflect at all what we are in New Haven and what we're trying to accomplish here.

We're a welcoming city and we welcome anyone that wants to be a productive part of our community.

And I want to emphasize productive because I think oftentimes there's a lot of rhetoric around immigrants and what cities like ours are trying to accomplish that's just false.

We want people that are going to be positive as far as their impact to the community.

We don't want criminals, we don't want rapists in our community, and we work very hard to hold folks that engage in illegal activities accountable.

what's your response to that?