Mm-hmm.

And so from, like, a, a bonding standpoint, a friendship standpoint, like a shared moment, it's just really cool.

And there was a, a time during that race, essentially probably like hour seven, seven, uh, seven and a d- seven and a half, somewhere in there, where I was really, really struggling.

And, um, I found, like, I sort of think that I've tapped out of or exhausted the ability to fully suffer for my own personal benefit.

Um, I, I don't know that I can get back to that place.

Uh, but I did find that I could get there for somebody else.

Mm-hmm.

Um, because they'll just think like-- And then something will happen where oftentimes like they'll kinda ground themselves and just be like, "Okay, I gotta get back at this," and, and I think that that's, you know, a really kind of a metaphor for sport.