How do you think about governance and board communication when the organization is growing quickly and operating in such a sensitive space? And there's a lot of changes with with AI and technology and security and all that?

Yeah, the it's a challenge.

And as boards evolve and companies evolve, the interaction between them has to evolve over time.

I've been in my role now 12 years.

And the board today looks drastically different than it did when I started, but the company looks different.

I I'm different today than I was when I started.

So it's really about being open and transparent, but also understanding lanes.

What led you to write that? And how do you define heart led leadership in your environment?