Give me three things that you kind of see are going to happen in the realm of third-party risk management in the next year, two years, three years.

Well, one thing that I'm probably sad to say from a third party risk management perspective is I think we're going to see just the same amount of breaches coming from that vector as we have.

It's a hardened metric.

I think around 70% of major data breaches or issues are coming from a third party risk vendor situation.

And so that won't change maybe, and that continues to be a challenging prediction because we rely so much on each other.

The second thing that I think from a third party risk, and this is gonna be a response to what's happening, is we see increased scrutiny on how people are testing for third party vendor compliance.

I think the leading compliance requirements that are really pushing this are, CMMC with its flow down requirements.

It's funny that you mentioned it that way because I think that all the time how thankful I am to have that background.