So that was a, a benefit of the trip in itself.

Yeah, and I've, I've had the...

You know, like I've, I've traveled with, uh, with Brad several times.

Um, you know, never traveled with, with Tim 'cause he, he was always...

Like Tim just came on a, from a trip from Indonesia like two weeks prior to going on this trip, you know? So Tim gets, gets a chance to travel a lot and do a lot of herping, and so does, uh, Brad as well.

Um, you know, but...

And Aaron, we've, we've talked through email before.

Indianapolis.

What was it?

Um, for me, I would just like, you know, being myself a little bit more.

You know, being myself.

Um, like I said, there is a lot of expectations around me and things like that, and, like, to be honest, like, I let go of all that.

You know, like, I'm gonna be myself regardless of what people wanna m-might, might not wanna think about me because at the end of the day, that's people's opinion.

I can't control that.

And that's something that really, like, came to me, like, last year.

Does it burden you? Is it a, "Oh..." Is it-

What was it?

Um, for me, I would just like, you know, being myself a little bit more.

You know, being myself.

Um, like I said, there is a lot of expectations around me and things like that, and, like, to be honest, like, I let go of all that.

You know, like, I'm gonna be myself regardless of what people wanna m- might, might not wanna think about me, because at the end of the day, that's people's opinion.

I can't control that.

And that's something that really, like, came to me, like, last year, you know? I feel like, you know, since I got to the, like, to the big leagues, there was, like, a lot of, like, expectations or the way that I should be or things like that.

Does it burden you? Is it a, "Oh!" [panting] Is it-

Give and take.

Yeah, I just feel like there is so much more opportunity. Like, I get a lot of people want, like, autographs and, like, pictures and things like that. But I feel like there is, like, a bigger opportunity within all those things. Because if, if I was a kid, like, I would... If I see a player like me or, like, a player like, you know, Kyle Riley or, like, Luis Castillo or Lauren Gilbert, whatev- whoever the, the, the guys that we have over here, you know, I would, I would, like, set up, like, just asking for things. Just like, I would, I would ask questions, you know. Like, "How do you, how do you get here?" Like, "How do you, how do you do all this?" Because, like, people that are here, like, watching baseball, I'm sure at some point they want to be where we're at. So I feel like there is, like, so much more opportunity for people that I wish, you know... that I want to encourage other people to, you know, that, that hear this, like, whenever you see guys like that, you know, try to, try to ask questions. And I understand that we're human too and that we can... Just kind of how we did it, you can do it too, so.

Yeah, yeah.

... to, to do these things. And I mean, I know they just see us kind of once we take on the field. But like, behind the scenes, that's why, that's why we try so hard. Like, that's why we have all these, you know, little trainees into plays, like little meetings like, like you were talking about. Like, kind of everybody kind of trying to push the envelope to keep getting better. That's why Dad sends a message that we got to push the envelope. It's not just because we want to, we want to win for everybody. You know, because at the end of the day, we're the one taking, taking on the field. And we're the one that gonna be always gonna feel the pressure from the fans and like, all that. But like, we are the ones that have to carry all that and keep on going.