Talk about your relationship with Sheldon and how that developed over your time as honorary commander.

So I had met Colonel Wilson at Rotary, and I had been out to the unit and done some leadership development training for some of the officers.

And when we started talking about this, he's like, would you consider being the honorary wing commander? I was like, I would be like...

really, you're thinking of me? And we started talking and we talk almost every week about things going on, what some of his challenges are, recommendations.

And what I love about the Honorary Commander Program is you and I have different tracks.

We have different resources, different skill sets, and whatever that skill set is can be applied.

So I have done, for the leadership team, a off-site retreat where we spent some time talking about leadership, but also the honorary commander program, what's going well, what we can enhance.

But let's talk for a second about your outside of commander life, which does involve those kind of training efforts and those resources that you can offer our members as well.