And

for years I acted and I directed and I worked behind the scenes with theater companies, actually in Charlotte, North Carolina, before I moved here to Asheville.

But at some point when I was working as an administrative assistant, I realized that directing a play was really the same kind of form as project management.

You have a deadline that absolutely isn't moving.

You have opening night.

limited budget, multiple work streams, dependencies everywhere, and a whole bunch of people who have to somehow come together around one outcome.

And it's really just herding cats, but with costumes and lighting.

see? Maybe share some, uh, you know, case studies or real life experiences, some stories that you went through be interesting for the listeners.