What are you getting wrong? Whereas SpaceX had the freedom to keep blowing up things until they got it right.

Yeah, it's a fascinating thing.

Six years ago, I wrote a book about the Apollo missions.

It's called To the Moon.

And I mainly did that so that... that I could tell my son that that's what I did for a living, draw spaceships.

And a lot of fun.

And I wanted to write that.

Do you think that organizations are ready for this or what can they do to get ready for that kind of a dialogue with a computer, if you like?