And I'm sure there was a little eyebrow raise, like you want to do what? And again, I'm sure there's some fun stories, but whatever you feel comfortable sharing about like, it was a great move, but I'm sure people were very cautious and I'm sure maybe people might've even said no and like, you're crazy.

If you rewind the tape, it actually was very strategic and it wasn't in the beginning at all about Applebee's.

It was that I had gone to the board and we had spent as a team a good, I want to say four and a half hours.

close to five years re-energizing and really turning around IHOP and making it not only a force to be reckoned with, we went from seventh in the category to number one, and then the object is to stay there.

But it wasn't just about, you know, the franchisees walked with a swagger again and sales were way up.

And, you know, I mean, it was substantial turnaround.

But in addition to that, it was what happened to the balance sheet.

So