Julia, how did you get involved? And, uh, tell me more about this study.

Yeah.

Um, I started working with Nicholas, um, in twenty seventeen as a undergrad, and then we continued together through my PhD, and now we still collaborate as I moved away from the lab.

Um, but still I'm not really far.

And then I had a lot of interest in, um, childhood maltreatment and, and parenting, and specifically the parent-child relationship and really trying to understand the processes that are happening when people parent and the pro-- the predictors of attachment security, for example.

And, uh, got really fascinated when I started working with Nicholas about reflective functioning in general.

And so my own dissertation focused on attachment-based reflective functioning in the adult attachment interview, but really started working on, uh, this trauma-specific reflective functioning as well, and just thinking about the ways that we measure reflective functioning in general.

What are you hoping someday to, to have as part of your lab and, and to see accomplished?