that

to match the time and these like half hour shows are really 28 minutes and really like 17 minutes when you get away all the sort of business of time.

the standing features.

And so every second and every microsecond was so precious.

And then we go into podcasting and there's like no clock, nothing.

And so what the hell is that? That's weird.

It also kind of great, but also potentially bad, you know, like, and then I got into just, you know, the commercial world.

And it's like, it sounds like they're talking about today.