What do we think that means in practice for biodiversity outcomes?

Yes, and I'd just like to explain that, so thank you for raising that.

What we had before was a threshold based on the impact on biodiversity.

It's called de minimis.

So it was a, the amount of impact you had on biodiversity, and if you were a certain small impact, you were exempt.

They're changing that to the less than 0.2 hectares of the size of your red line boundary.

So I just want people, because there's a fundamental shift in that, but that doesn't include priority habitats.

How important is this?

So what then do you have to do to get qualified? Or could I literally just list an ad in the, uh, White Pages, I'm showing my age there, and say, "I'm a snake catcher, and I'm, I'm gonna help you out"?

Oh, no, no, no.

First of all, you've gotta do a course, and they are getting much, much stricter.

So it's all regulated by the department.

Um, you have to do this weekend, or it might just be a one-day course.

You learn theory, you learn to ID all the snakes, then you learn to safely catch them and bag them and what tools you should be using and all of that.

But it doesn't end there.

Why do you think that is? Why are we hearing more about human and snake encounters that ordinarily we wouldn't have heard about maybe 20 or 30 years ago?