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Judy Samuelson

Sep 15, 2026

8:51
sure can't.
8:51
And in some respects we're...
8:54
I think we've lost ground.
8:57
And it's not because of politics and all of that and all of the pushback.
9:01
And that's not why we've lost ground.
9:03
We've lost ground because we have such an intense focus on paying executives in stock.
9:08
It's become just the way we do things.

15 MINS LATER

24:05
That perhaps this is just what dialogue and action does.

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