So what did it look like when you first sort of locked the door? Did you launch straight into doing a course straight away?

Pretty much.

I think I'm a great procrastinator and people who know me know that and people who know me really well don't give that very much quarter.

And so, you know, I wasn't going to be able to say if only I had the time again, that was just not going to fly.

So, yes, I signed up and I did that immediately.

That first course, and I was terrified because it was a Zoom course and even going on Zoom for me, I'm hugely introverted, didn't really enjoy doing that.

And then the teacher who she was fantastic, she said, right, we're all going to write for 15 minutes now and then we're going to read back.

So from there, did you start writing your manuscript? Had you been tinkering away on this or was this a brand new thing that ended up becoming the book that you've published?