Yeah.

But this time I was like, I really don't wanna slip into that again, and I wanna make something that everyone can- It can speak to something in everyone.

Yeah And I think while the idea of like my legacy or my creative work or whatever is quite a niche thing, I think that idea of like I just want to do something with my life that will make me feel like I've- I've completed- Yeah ... what I planned to do.

You know, just when I get that out of the way or when I've done this- Yeah ... or when I...

And I think that's- That's something everyone wants ... everyone has that.

Yeah, yeah.

So I was very keen to try and make it that like the show spoke to something much more universal.

Um, but, uh, also the, um, things like one of my favorites of yours was when you did Bond-

Jaws, have you got something to pull up out of the mines of Urgh?

I feel a bit funny about the one I've brought in this time because it's something that I still absolutely love and means a lot.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I guess that's the whole point.

It means, it means I wanted to bring in Kurt Vonnegut, Kurt Vonnegut stuff who like, I, I love his work so much and it means a lot to me and discovering it was a, was a real kind of sea change in how I approached like writing and how I approach the kind of stories you could tell, because I think it's so inventive and so kind of, it could feel like it comes from a very authentic place and it's so kind.

I feel like everything he does that goes to very sort of like big unusual concepts.

I have not, no.

[laughs]

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, big eruptions sort of being tracked all the time over here.

Um, you can't call it a supervolcano is the thing.

You're, you're wrong.

There hasn't been a supervolcano found under the east of England, or at least this is, this is the debate that's going on at the moment.

They've found evidence that there was once something that, uh, people like you and me, we might call it a supervolcano because we're not kind of in the midst of it, we don't really know what we're talking about.

[laughs]

About sheep? No

... had a great time.

Uh, haven't worked sheep into it yet, but since watching this, I've decided that might be the secret sauce.

Maybe that's how you do it.

Um, I think it knows what it's doing.

I think it's, it's a really stupid film, but I think it does know it.

I think because, because I'm kind of, like, an unreliable reviewer for it, I'm gonna talk about a specific bit of it that is the most fascinating, like, sequence of events in a film that I've seen in ages.

Can you tell us this story?