And as those names imply, both shows are examining the inner life of the material she uses to make objects.

I actually went to a fine arts high school, which is sixth grade through twelfth grade in Birmingham, Alabama.

That school is really modeled very closely after a college art program.

You start with art foundations.

You have several years of drawing and painting.

You have sculpture, printmaking, oil painting.

And then your junior and senior year, you're working up to your senior thesis where you end with a show.

And what actual idea are you playing with in the kudzu series? What's the operative conceptual basis?