
Joyce Er
Product manager at Cerebras Systems, previously a Senior Software Engineer on the VS Code core team and GitHub Copilot at Microsoft.
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Sep 23, 2026
Keep a friction log and read a sales book - product ownership with Joyce Er
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Kent C. DoddsHOST
Where do you develop that kind of intuition around how to design a system that can satisfy today's requirements and be open for the future?

Joyce ErGUEST
Yeah, I think this is one of those things where judgment really comes from lived experience.

Joyce ErGUEST
when you see a feature land in a way that's a little bit different than the way that you originally intended for it to land, or if a feature gets unshifted or if it becomes deprecated, or if a new feature becomes the better way to handle something at a product level even, if a new kind of market emerges.

Joyce ErGUEST
that makes your existing product no longer as relevant and your team actually has to fully pivot into a completely different domain.

Joyce ErGUEST
I think seeing the ways that what is relevant for your customer can change is what ultimately gives you that intuition for how your systems need to evolve.

Joyce ErGUEST
And I would also say it really depends on the life cycle that you're in, like the stage of the life cycle that you are in when you're building something.

Joyce ErGUEST
For example, when you're in very, very early phases of prototyping, this is actually one of the things that I think AI is the best at.
9 MINS LATER

Kent C. DoddsHOST
How do I get that incentive in the right place so that, um, I can get the thing I have ownership on, uh, finished?