... thoughts that you could share about that?

Yeah.

I have actually two, two things came to my mind.

First of all, when we do something that we really, really like, that we really love even, it gu- almost guarantee 100% we will be successful in it.

If we choose something to do that is a compromise, that is a nice to have, the chance that we will succeed is much less.

I don't say we will not succeed, I just say it's less.

So the more we are doing something that we are emotionally connected to it, and that brings, uh, like make us, um, um, spark something inside of us, and bring us some kind of a passion, enthusiasm, excitement, the more chance that we will actually succeed in that.

Mm.

[chuckles]

And, uh, I think every experience made me rethink a little bit where I am, what am I wishing for, what will make me happy, and every experience kind of rebuilt something inside of me, um, and created a better version of me.

I think, uh, the most, the most meaningful change that I did was actually when I needed to leave my life in Israel and start all over again in a completely new country.

I moved to Germany, and before I moved, I had absolutely no idea that I will move.

So, um, I had a very successful career of 14 years as the head of marketing, and something inside of me started to change with time.

So it felt very nice and very fulfilling at the beginning, but step by step, I started to feel that I am becoming less and less myself.

So I was more stressed and nervous all the time.

What happened on that river and once did you begin seeing differently after that? How did you see life afterwards?

Can you please take us back to that experience and explain why it became such a powerful turning point in your personal journey?

Yeah.

Definitely.

So I think you've already started to realize I traveled a lot.

So this story you refer to is actually, yeah, I was in 38 countries was the last time I counted, but not in Africa yet, not in Nigeria.

So I hope to get to that place.

Yeah, so the rafting experience you refer to was actually in Nepal.

No, I know there's more.