Something I think is important to understand is how before you do a trial because it can feel like a little bit like oh I have an idea I will try a trial and I will do it with human but it's not usually the case there's a lot of things to follow and yeah I think it's important to understand the process from the beginning

I think the the process it goes through many steps generally what we come up with first or what we're trying to do first is better effective treatment, and then looking at what ways can we do that and getting the data that we can show that that works and that it is working.

So there's different phases of trials.

We have what's called phase zero all the way through to phase four.

And depending on the phase depends on what part of the question we're wanting to answer.

So things that we call early phase trials, phase zero is kind of pre or risk component here.

Then we go into kind of phase one, phase two, early phase testing.

Like if you're testing, let's say, a new device or your diagnosis, have like the same consequence so do you have any tips about this about like knowing what to ask and what to look at from a patient perspective