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ahead, please.

I'm sorry.

I thought you were finished.

Yes, that's the first aspect of this.

The second is regularly advocates on behalf of the Haitian migrants who are now illegal immigrants committing either civil or criminal offenses by being in this country because temporary protective status has ended.

Right.

question.

What happened? Go ahead.

Yes.

Yes.

Thank you for having me on.

So I live in Dayton and have my entire life.

It's the next door neighbor of Springfield.

And it was in 2021 that Biden opened up the border to millions upon millions of uniquely unintegratable third world migrants.

Tell me about it.

Up until how recent are we talking here?

What changed for me and others, by the way, there's a young woman named Evan Barker.

She's become rather popular on the podcast circuit because she has that book called Nothing Left.

She was the activist and strategist and fundraiser, et cetera, for Democrats for many years.

She and I ultimately left the left for the same initial reason.

We both separately had a white son.

a white baby.

How does that happen?

And when it shows six bucks a gallon and above, it's an instant stimulant for them to vote another direction to your point.

Yes, that's right.

And this is where a foreign policy and domestic policy, unfortunately, can be at odds with one another.

Foreign policy, it takes years, in some cases decades, whereas domestically... what Americans really care about is measured in paychecks.

That's right.

Bi-weekly paychecks.

That's right.

You're spot on, Joshua.

Joshua?

That's a really good question.

So in my case, what I did is I went through all the research locally and I interviewed everyone that I possibly could.

And what I found out was Springfield was chosen, not just Haitians themselves, but was chosen by the Biden administration for effectively population replacement.

Across America from 2021 to 2025, a vulnerable white working class population Protestant Christian communities were chosen to play host to thousands of Somalis, Afghans, Uzbeks, Haitians, etc.

To create, in effect, with the path eventually to amnesty, voting blocs that would be loyal to the Democratic Party to help shore up a supermajority for Democrats over the next 10 to 20 years.

to help ensure that every swing state and even every red state becomes a new California, effectively a new one-party state, with Ohio being one of them.

But it just bothers me and sickened me that there are so many people out there that lack the spine to call it what it actually is, which is what you're doing in this book.

is joshua lysek the co-author of of course on human socialist revolution with myself as well as burn it down with rich barris so joshua uh what's going on man you are uh directly responsible and tied to the two i would say the two books this cycle that came out that accurately predicted where we were going and what was happening in 2026 in the face of pretty much the entire conservative consensus saying otherwise.

Thank you, Jack.

Yes, it's good to be here.

Of course, I wish better circumstances of this conversation.

That said, people are now the pundits, the other pundits who are kind of behind the times and even predicting a red wave.

I saw a bit of that.

They're now coming around our line of thinking and saying, well, we should have just seen this.

What they were upset about was the economics tied to the Iran war specifically.

So Joshua, what's going on, man? You are directly responsible and tied to the two, I would say the two books this cycle that came out that accurately predicted where we were going and what was happening in 2026 in the face of pretty much the entire conservative consensus saying otherwise.

Thank you, Jack.

Yes, it's good to be here.

Of course, I wish better circumstances of this conversation.

That said, people are now the pundits, the other pundits who are kind of behind the times and even predicting a red wave.

I saw a bit of that.

They're now coming around our line of thinking and saying, well, we should have just seen this.

What they were upset about was the economics tied to the Iran war specifically.

Now, but the real, the official reason why these Haitians were brought in was because of the oppression and all the crime and all the gangs and the political unrest in Haiti, correct?

That's what they say.

That's not true at all.

The vast majority of Haitians in Springfield came from Brazil and Chile, where they had successful enclaves, where they had been living for, in many cases, more than 10 years.

I spoke with Haitians themselves and researched with the book.

And a story that I heard repeatedly was we were living in Brazil and you know, had successful jobs, had good lives there.

Suddenly, one day, men speaking Creole showed up at their door and said, pack your things.

So Joshua Lysak, author of the book Haitians of Springfield and Oral History, you are reopening this allegation that the local Haitians are eating cats and dogs and using them in voodoo rituals.

from

Teddy Roosevelt in conservation to the democratic socialist ideology of Woodrow Wilson.

And there was this idea following World War I that governments could not be trusted with the welfare of the people following the first industrialized mass slaughter that was the Great War.

And so we had the League of Nations project being the first full-fledged attempt to take away sovereignty from an individual nation that could wreak havoc upon the world and bring about the death of tens of millions of people.

And the idea was then that it could be, let's say, distributed amongst a managerial elite who were removed from the day-to-day politics of a national government.

That idea was accelerated following the end of World War II, where this business of Democratic socialism on a global scale absolutely failed miserably, of course.

And we saw one nation against another.

And then it just blew up, and it's almost uncontrollable now, isn't it?

Tell us all about it.

Yes, it is called Haitians of Springfield and Oral History.

Most people know about the Springfield story, of course, because of the eating the cats and eating the pets meme of President Trump.

But there has been a five-year-long representative case study of mass migration from the unassimilatable third world into middle America, and Springfield, Ohio has all of those stories.

I, of course, live in Dayton, which is a neighbor.

of Springfield.

And earlier this year, at your urging, I might add, Jack, I spent 10 weeks in Springfield documenting everything that had been going on, that is going on, that the media says never happened.

the honor of getting the endorsement of the president of the united states and getting a true social post up from him endorsing the book endorsing both of us as authors our plan to fight communism as an inhuman ideology and it's an incredible thing obviously having the president and the vice president on a on a book is a high achievement for any author i'm just just honored as i know you are but you did something quite different with your haitians of springfield book Walk us through, did you go and have the president and the vice president and all these people you have in your network go and endorse the book? What did you end up doing?

Tell us all about it.

Yes, it is called Haitians of Springfield and Oral History.

Most people know about the Springfield story, of course, because of the eating the cats and eating the pets meme of President Trump.

But there has been a five-year-long representative case study of mass migration from the unassimilatable third world into middle America.

And Springfield, Ohio has all of those stories.

I, of course, live in Dayton, which is a neighbor of Springfield.

And earlier this year, at your urging, I might add, Jack, I spent 10 weeks in Springfield documenting everything that had been going on, that is going on, that the media says never happened.

Obviously, you and I, with this new Unhumans, we did have the honor of getting the endorsement of the president of the united states and getting a true social post up from him endorsing the book endorsing both of us as authors our plan to fight communism as an inhuman ideology and it's an incredible thing obviously having the president and the vice president on a on a book is a high achievement for any author i'm just just honored as i know you are but you did something quite different with your haitians of springfield book Walk us through, did you go and have the president and the vice president and all these people you have in your network go and endorse the book? What did you end up doing?

Springfield,

Ohio.

That's what I'd guess.

However, When the Haitians first began arriving, it was thought, oh, we can do the same thing with these people.

Okay, they speak French or Portuguese because of Brazil, or Haitian Creole, and they're Caribbean, similar cuisine, right, to the Hispanics.

Absolutely not.

There is something that one should know about Dominicans and other Central American Spanish-speaking Caribbean peoples and their view of Haitians.

So what was the response of the state government, the governor, state representatives, particularly for this area, and even people in Congress? Was there any ability or effort to assist in rectifying at least some of the problems that were pertinent to this?

And of course, we

credit our beloved internet dad, Scott Adams, for this.

And the context here, I want to read you this line real quick.

This line.

This is the level of based that this particular book is.

I'm quoting the New York Times, by the way, back in 2007, when you could say this stuff.

The greater the diversity in a community, the fewer people vote and the less they volunteer, the less they give to charity and work on community projects.

But have they been able to deport? a few of them or have they been able to get citizenship somehow or what do you know about that?

So was it that they were actually taking them for their rituals more than it was that they were just eating them, which seemed to be what the mainstream narrative was running with?

Yes, so it seems like the truth is actually worse than what the rumor was.

Typically in Haitian voodoo rituals, they engage in the blood sacrifice and the splattering of the blood.

It's utterly disturbed in barbaric faith, if you could even call it that.

There is usually the ritual consumption of the animal afterwards.

But it's the part about the voodoo that's actually worse than just simply like hunting geese.

Okay, every, you know, geese hunting, duck hunting in season with proper license.

And I think that what you're talking about is another perfect example of that.

So my question starts with how did you and Jenica get together in the first place deciding that this was something that needed to be written ASAP?

Yes.

So I had had on my mind this matter of our Our conservative American voting base, this is, I live in Ohio, this is middle America, this is the vast majority of America.

We are a deeply religious conservative country, yet at no level of government, state, all the way up to the federal branches, is there anything like conservative Christian aligned governance in any way, shape, or form? It is aggressively anti-Christian, it is aggressively anti-conservative, and to the The Democratic Party.

But even we have seen with the Senate absolutely failing hard on the SAVE Act, particularly Republicans.

So little has been done during the first half of Donald J. Trump's second presidency here, despite having congressional Republican majorities.

And that is because they're on the same side.

Go to Wayfair.com today.

area but then a lot of our districts have been flipping over the last several years and a lot of in a lot of people you know they'll cite election fraud which there's a lot there's shenanigans probably but i think that there's a bigger issue out here where we're seeing a lot of these relocation programs in places like anaheim santa ana you know things like that that that then offset the much more conservative places in like newport beach costa mesa huntington beach so so you know specifically you know there it's it's interesting how you know it's like there's one set community when you think about it that they're relocating kind of taking over you know the springfield area um you know do are they doing this on a regular basis across the country where they're taking one third world country set of people and then bring them in? Or is it really a mishmash of different cultures?

It is a bit of a mishmash.

Yes.

But but but the what we have in common is regularly have you have very poor, you have non liberty believing peoples.

So Haitians, for example, aren't used to things like freedom, civil rights, human rights, that those aren't really words that are part of their, their, their, their reality.

Haitian Haitian culture is probably best known anthropologically for voodoo, the practice of voodoo, which naturally involves, let's say, superstitious hexes, curses, spell casting, wizardry, sorcery, necromancy.

Of course, the summoning of zombies is a practice that they believe in.

And I think that what you're talking about is another perfect example of that.

Who are these people? How is it working? Who's funding it? Why do the midterms matter? What's their plan?

Yes, every single question we answer inside of the book, and we go back almost 400 years ago to do so.

400 years almost.

This objective to promote so-called our democracy is the word that they always use.

It's a project that dates back in an unbroken chain to the treaties of Westphalia.

And any history buffs or history majors will know exactly what I'm talking about.

That was the first practical demonstration of the philosophy we now call supranationalism.

Lots of states are part of this, but Illinois is a big one.

Well, it sounds to me that those who go to the no kings rallies are no different from Alyssa Slotkin.

Well, this is the great irony.

Since the 1950s, we have devoted ourselves as a federal people to unfettered, unelected judicial supremacy.

Right.

Every single major left-wing cultural, social, political, and financial victory has been at the hands of unaccountable judges.

Right.

And of course, the great irony of the Trump administration here in the first go around and in this one, his greatest opponents, his harshest critics have been in the judiciary.

Based on your research for Unelected, how you paid for a sinister elite to take over America, what kind of funding records were established? Were you able to uncover? What kind of evidence?

Those are people get their news from like NPR, The New York Times, The Washington Post, et cetera, et cetera, and actually believe that it's completely true.

That's right.

Yes.

The NPR Americans are known for being what we call useful idiots.

You know, they, of course, are wildly overeducated beyond their intelligence and their IQ level.

And they learn these words that have slate of handed definitions.

For example, when, as an example, when an NPR American uses the word neighbor, as in the biblical imperative to love your neighbor as yourself, when they use the word neighbor, what they actually mean is a non-white illegal immigrant.

And that's why I love what we're seeing today from the White House.

Those are people get their news from like NPR, The New York Times, The Washington Post, et cetera, et cetera, and actually believe that it's completely true.

That's right, yes.

The NPR Americans are known for being what we call useful idiots.

They, of course, are wildly over-educated beyond their intelligence and their IQ level, and they learn these words that have slate-of-handed definitions.

For example, as an example, when an NPR American uses the word neighbor, as in the biblical imperative to love your neighbor as yourself.

When they use the word neighbor, what they actually mean is a non-white illegal immigrant.

For example, an ex-TPS Haitian in Springfield, Ohio.

And that's why I love what we're seeing today from the White House.

Yes.

And the repeated story that I, uh, became familiar with was, uh, strange men appeared in 2021 throughout Chile and Brazil, uh, knocked on doors of various Haitians and ordered them to leave.

They said, "We're, we...

Pack up everything you own, we are leaving.

We're going to the United States of America." And unsure of what to do and frankly feeling rather afraid, the Haitians, uh, and I don't know what percentage of this was, but this was a recurrent story.

They were simply told, "We're going to America." And so they were made to pick up their lives and were sent on this, this journey, um, from Brazil, from Chile, ultimately to Springfield, Ohio.

Uh, some, some of the Haitians even lost family members, uh, to the dangers of the, of the, of the Darien Gap from South America to Central America.

What, what really was, w- is there a linchpin to the agenda of the White House during the, what I call the, the American Dark Ages, known as the Biden years?

The mass explosion of NGOs and the acceptance of it is what's really kind of startling, isn't it? I mean, do people even know what it is and how it exists and how the money appears to be part of a policy, and that it includes grants and nobody can trace it?

Well, a lot of people, we, we do know names like Carnegie, Ford, Rockefeller, their various family foundations.

Those organizations are quite well-known.

But what, uh, what has happened to create this effec- effectively an unelected yet parallel government superstructure that is global, not just the United States, but is a global governance network unaccountable to any single one organization, is during the period of the Industrial Revolution, of course, you had these tycoons of industry, these monopolists, some might call them robber barons, of course, they built vast, vast, massive fortunes beyond anything that was understandable at that time.

And many of them built these family foundations, and then they built foundations to, uh, donate into those foundations.

And you had charities upon charities upon NGOs upon NGOs.

And this is prior to World War I, the Great War.

Do you think this is just a great opportunity that we cannot afford to miss right now?

Some of these folks were playing a long game, were they not, sir?

That's right.

In fact, the book Unelected, although it may sound like it's current events, it's actually also historical nonfiction because we go back almost 400 years in the classical liberal story to this idea, as Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, uh, Independence All men are created equal.

Sounds kinda nice, right? Well, take that to its logical end.

If all men are created equal, well, then all people and all citizens are created equal.

And so now our administrative elites, our cosmopolitan elites, who deem themselves, of course, uh, bastions and protectors of democracy, women's rights, minority rights, et cetera, et cetera, they think of themselves as global citizens.

And therefore, because all men are created equal, all citizenships are also created equal.

Well, that's fine to say all men are created equal, but, uh, the way that I learned it in law school is we're talking about equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome, and they kind of just blur right over that, don't they?

The NGO administrative complex, how do you describe and define what that is and why it's a big problem?

Yeah, some, some people might know this organizational set by a different name, such as the deep state or the swamp, and it consists of both public and private, uh, organizations, departments, and, uh, individuals who, while some of them may have been put in their position of power by elected officials, particularly within the executive branch, the bureaucracy, the employees who outlast one administration to another, they are, uh, for the vast majority, unelected and wholly unaccountable to the people.

These are those who ultimately decide on the funneling of congressionally approved funds, because con-congress equal budget, congress equal money in terms of the control.

That's kind of our superstructure within our constitutional system.

And what happens-

Is that data available for people who want to find it? Is it just hard to find, or are there real changes in law or in transparency policies that should be enacted?

enacted?It has generally been hard to find, although a significant amount of it is and remains public.

And, and anyone listening right now, you can go to datarepublican.com and you can begin finding and, and exploring for yourself these funding networks.

What's their experience like?

Well, a lot of books, as you would know, Matt, a lot of books when they come out, they have blurbs from other famous authors or celebrities or something like that.

But Haitians of Springfield, all the blurbs I've gotten for the book, like a dozen and a half, it's all residents.

It's all the heritage and citizens who are blurbing the book and writing praise for the book, saying that this is the truth that validates everything that we have experienced and that we've suffered.

People tell me, no, Joshua, there hasn't been a mass Haitian immigration here.

It's been a Haitian invasion.

They described the word as an invasion where the city and 50% of the population increased in approximately just a few months beginning in 2021 under President Joe Biden.

In your research, what have you learned happens to a community when they have this type of an influx of immigrants from a third world country?