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Josh Phillips

Josh Phillips

Sep 10, 2026

48 Hours

48 Hours

Caged Kids

Sep 10 · 41m

Peter Van Sant
Peter Van SantCORRESPONDENT
7:01
What do you think about when you think of Maddie?
7:03
All I think about is a little girl who didn't deserve to die.
7:08
And, uh, I kind of, I try to think about what the hell was going through my head, you know? You know, I, I screwed up my life.
7:15
I screwed up hers.
7:16
She's not gonna have a chance to want anything, and it's, uh, it's all because of me.
Peter Van Sant
Peter Van SantCORRESPONDENT
10:03
What would you do if you had a second chance?
10:06
If I got out, I'd, uh, you know, I'd owe the world a lot, you know, 'cause they gave me a second chance, and I'd try to do whatever I could to repay them.
10:13
And, uh, so I, I don't know whether I deserve a chance or not, but I know I want the chance.
4:21
How did it all come about? How did you actually come together as a band?
4:25
Well, I'll tell you very briefly if I can, because, um, I moved down from Thames Ditton, which of course is very close to you guys.
4:32
And I'd been in that part of the world for the best part of 40 years in, um, in Teddington and Thames Ditton and Chiswick and St Margaret's and all of those parts of that world.
4:41
I said to my wife, "If I ever have to drive over Kingston Bridge again, I think I'm gonna go crazy." Um, because as much as I love Kingston Bridge, um, you need to do other things in your life other than drive over Kingston Bridge.
4:53
So I moved down to a place called, um, uh, Hamble or Rice, which is on the sea down here in Southampton, just off the r- off the coast.
5:01
Uh, and I was asked by the com- the commodore of the Royal Southern Yacht Club here.
5:07
I became a member, put our boat down here, and, uh, he said, "Oh, Josh," said, "I, I understand that, um, I know who you are.

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24:47
So you, you were talking about other gigs that you've got coming up as well, Josh?
5:15
[laughs]
5:15
... and scream and, and say all the things you've always wanted to say, but, and then it gets, you know, immortalized in, in the-

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19:00
She's a sweetheart, and she's just sort of like, "I got to sit and play with somebody who plays the sitar." [laughs] I'm like, "And now it's time to go in and tear somebody's head off." It's like, "All right." [laughs] We'll have her in one of these at some point.
19:12
I want to get a monocle, or at least glasses that do that.
19:16
I just like the word monocle.
19:18
Say it a few times.
19:19
Monocle, monocle.
24:18
Yeah, now that's where I was going next, Josh, is how – whoever's behind this, if there is masterminding, if there is a legit spy operation, Beijing is behind it, CCP, whoever, how are they targeting – vulnerable politicians? Are they looking at just Democrats? Do they know enough about our political system? Do they find a potential weak, vulnerable target? How are they figuring it out?
24:55
I can give you some insider information because I personally investigated one of these cases back in between 2008 and 2012.
25:05
So at the time, you know, I was a very new investigative reporter working in New York.
25:09
And, you know, of course, with Epoch Times still, I've been there a long time.
25:13
But I was investigating John Liu.
25:15
John Liu, former city council member, Flushing, Queens, one of the big Chinese communities, later became New York City Comptroller and later ran for, you know, governor of New York or sorry, mayor of New York.
25:27
They wanted to push him to be president, according to some of the backroom statements.
29:47
I mean, what, What does Democrat Swalwell, how does he play into any mastermind vision that China has? What is their end game? What are they doing using sex to get into our politics?
28:40
And that's the larger message here, at least part of it.
28:43
Yeah, I actually think this is more about Iran than it is anything else.
28:49
You could also say it's actually also about North Korea and kind of the train Trump is on right now.
28:54
You know, he took out Maduro.
28:56
He took out, of course, the Ayatollah.
28:59
He's been taking out key leaders within these enemy nations.
29:02
They say Cuba's next.
31:30
Would withdrawing forces, as the president has threatened, would that be the ultimate, okay, I'm really serious about this?
17:54
What's the motivation there to tear down the United States of America, promote communism? I, I understand they have a whole different host of values over in that part, but w- what's the connection?
18:08
Yeah, so what, what they're using is a Maoist strategy.
18:12
Um, and, and this, this is where people get lost in the weeds with identity politics, right? Um, basically, long story short, communism under Karl Marx was basically, you know, the bourgeoisie against the proletariat.
18:23
It was class warfare.
18:25
They, they discovered over time that the narrative of class conflict did not really work in the United States.
18:32
Uh, we have a very fluid class system.
18:34
You can be born into a rich family- Do stupid things and become poor.
22:02
Instead of sending bombs and submarines and missiles and things like that, all you have to do, doesn't cost that much in the long run, a few billion dollars here, a few billion dollars there, you got some tranny freaks tearing up the streets, America divided against each other, and China gains.
3:51
Tell us what you know.
3:53
Well, so Israel did strike some of the oil fields or the oil facilities in Iran.
3:58
Trump was very unhappy about that.
4:01
Some things happened behind the scenes.
4:02
We don't know how tense that was or how that went.
4:04
But Trump basically came out and said Israel will not be doing that again.
4:09
I think this ties into the long range kind of view of the war.
8:37
to
5:49
Please do.
5:49
Yeah, so what had, what had happened was, is...
5:52
Uh, okay, so I, let me give some background.
5:53
Uh, a few years back, I was investigating, uh, the border crisis.
5:57
I actually went down to Panama.
5:58
I was in the Darien Gap.
6:00
I got access to the migrant caravan camps.... um, did a, did a documentary on it.
9:43
Right.

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