Do you think that your personalities are pretty similar or very different? And if so, what are the biggest differences in your personalities? You both seem very competitive, probably Luke a bit more.

We are super competitive.

Growing up, it was a nightmare for us playing sports together at all.

like outdoors you know it'll always end up in a fight my parents are always terrified if we had a bat and ball out the front playing cricket it'd just be like a matter of time before someone loses it and takes the stumps and cries and runs away that happened all the time so it's sort of just our nature to be super competitive but I would say I'm more social than Luke, just in normal life.

Luke's a massive homebody.

He's happy being a family man, chilling with his kids and wife.

He rarely goes out, barely makes time for friends.

And yeah, I just think that you guys are such good TV because of that.

I felt that.

Yeah, well, look, I'm always happy to take a step back.

Luke's more of the leader.

He's a bit more boisterous.

Oh, see, I didn't see that.

He's more of a front-footed type person.

Wow.

But do you think looking back on it, would have you preferred to go in on your own or with Luke again? What are your thoughts?

... because I don't think that either of you would've been able to keep that a secret if one of you had been made a Traitor and the other hadn't.

Well, I, you sort of have to keep it a secret, because then you, you're breaking the rules.

So, I mean, uh, we would be able to read each other better than anyone else in the world, basically, us being twins, it's such a special relationship.

Um, but ultimately he wouldn't be able to say, "Hey, I'm a Traitor." I'll just have to, you know, try to pick it up, which ultimately I was able to read that he was a Faithful very quickly after I kept my distance from him for three or four days, because he went bright red at the beginning.

[laughs] I was like, "Oh, if he is a Traitor, I don't wanna go down with him, so I'm gonna keep my distance." But then as soon as I spoke to him after three or four days, like, "Are you a Traitor?" He's like, "No." I could tell straight away he wasn't lying, so then I was like, "Okay, I can clear you way easier than I could clear anyone else."

What do you think the rationale behind that is? Like, why haven't people gone harder for Kirby? Do you think it comes down to her playing a smarter game and building better friendships, or what's happened?

Yeah.

Well, Kirby's incredibly intelligent.

Is that typical of your dynamic? Is he typically the one to sort of take the lead and you're happy to sort of take more of a backseat?

Yeah, I think like growing up, that's pretty much how it usually was.

He's more on the front foot, a little bit more confident, especially as we're growing up and I'll be more happy to, you know, follow Luke.

follow suit as we've gotten older I've sometimes taken the lead in certain aspects in business and so forth but in a gameplay like this Luke's way more boisterous and way more of a risk taker and I'll sort of listen to him in that regard if he's like this is who it is I'll be like okay cool I'll back it you know he won't Yeah, he would struggle more to listen to what anyone else has to say.

If he's got his blinkers on, it's done.

I was trying to say to him after we got the first two catches, like, oh, we're going to move on Kirby.

He's like, no, we're moving on Claudia.

I want to talk about Kirby because obviously you started the game suspicious of Kirby you were trying to get your brother to suspect Kirby and on board for a Kirby vote what was your relationship like and how did it change over time because you became convinced that Kirby was a faithful well