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Um, you know, I've been involved in software and education and we've built and sold a lot of companies.

But if we go way back to the beginning, it was me delivering pizza, living in a trailer park, married to my high school, uh, sweetheart, Ashley.

Now, we've been married 24 years now.

We have five kids, and we've trauma bonded.

[laughs] That, that's what we call it.

Like, if you're married and you have a business, high five, right? Marriage is hard all by itself.

Mm.

What happened with all that? Is that the business you're in now?

No.

That was a, that was a, a business I sold to a huge CRM, and it did a lot more revenue than that.

What happened was, is we started a coaching program for primarily like pressure cleaner and window cleaner people in the beginning.

I had no idea the demand for this.

We, I was really early.

You know, I, I've been really blessed to be like a couple years early on several of my things, including my direct mail automation app that I penciled out in 2012, okay? Like, it, we just were early, and so in our space of home services, there was no formal mastermind or coaching programs or anything.

Yeah.