But talk us through, when you get them boat side, how do you manage such a strong beast into the boat? What's your protocol on your boat to get them into the boat without losing them?

So we have some advantages with my boat, not having outboards, uh, is helpful cause there's nothing in the way at the back of the boat.

So, and I've got about at least 15 feet of room down each side.

So we can move that fish, you know, where it needs to be or follow that fish wherever it wants to go.

Uh, I've got multiple controls on my boat so I can keep the boat in position.

you know, essentially keep it out of the way of the fish.

So we, we try to take our time.

What does Hooked on Hope mean to you? What does it mean to Wingman Guide Service, and why have you guys been so involved with it for all these years?