What was your experience like at that much-discussed online influencer event in the Hamptons?

I drank more wine in one day than I have in the rest of my life, and it was a great time.

I will spill one.

The thing about Carolyn's side that kind of alerted me to the fact that there was something going on, and then I talked to somebody who gave me confirmation that things are bad there neither of them somebody else on the cast and not Erin also who I just mentioned whatever I need to stop talking I'm like and not that one and not that one okay whatever so okay they were doing a game where they were all seated on the stage and they all had to say something nice about the person to the left I think it was of them and so the way that it ended was with Carol and Andy on the end and I didn't hear what was said, but I'm reasonably confident that this is what...

Well, I kind of heard a little bit.

I was pretty close to the front row.

I'm quite sure that what happened is that Carol and Andy were sitting next to each other.

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had a really hard time with the he manipulated me with Jesus because I'm like, yes, Charlie is like cartoonishly evil.

He is horrible.

And I'm in no position to ever give him the benefit of the doubt ever.

But at the same time, I was just like, Ariana, I'm not sure that's the best argument we could be making here.

And the reaction that I've seen online is most people think that that's either funny or ridiculous.

I've not seen many people buying that excuse because it's very clear that she was into him on some level.

How do you think of Liam acting a fool? What does that mean to you?

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I think it was pretty apparent to me that it came from production initially.

I think if you, like, listened closely...

I, I, I guess I also have a lot of friends who come from TV production world, and they all were saying to me, like, "This couldn't have been a cast member.

It had to have been somebody in production." You also, if you listen closely, can hear, I think it's Mia's audio, like, increase as it goes on.

Like, she gets louder as it goes.

I think it's her.

Which is illegal.

I mean, I'm, I'm cur- Listen, I, I wanna give you the platform and floor to talk about how your thoughts on this.

Yeah, I mean, it was difficult to watch.

I think I agree with the sentiment that you are expressing, and I think that's what the fan base is in agreement about.

I actually was kind of not defending Margot, but the f- the fan base has been very difficult, like very hard on her since the very beginning of the season, and I didn't fully understand why.

Like, Reddit specifically has been dragging her since the first episode, and I think...

I don't know entirely why that was the case, and I actually did like her at first.

But yeah, I mean, the Mark thing, it's just gone too far.

Wait, can I ask an example of that?

What's your take on Wittner? I feel like he's a little spicy.

He is.

I think he was feeling himself a little bit.

I think the audience, like, being really supportive of him, not, I don't want to say went to his head, but I think he was feeling empowered by that going into this reunion.

I think he saw, I mean, I know that Wittner, I mean, I don't know if I should...

Wittner follows me on Instagram, so Wittner sees the things that the creators are saying, and I and a lot of other creators have been really harsh towards Craig this season, so maybe Wittner saw that.

I mean, Wittner was also shady about Craig at certain points during the season, but definitely was more at this reunion.

It could save the show.

Having said all that, how much do you hate Kyle and want him? No, I'm just kidding.

Well, yes.

I mean, that's and that when I say these things, sometimes I feel like I'm like being a teacher and I'm like scolding my audience being like, no, be nice.

But but that's actually not true.

Like, really, when I say those things, I'm also reminding myself exactly.

I can get mean.

Yes.

mention it all let us know that you're like but it's like listen we're open with each other we're honest like polygamy and i mean polyamorous relationships those exist yeah