Unbelievable.

The first part says, I mean, you know, supposedly synodality is welcoming to everyone, right? Talking about defensive entrenchment in one zone position, that doesn't seem too welcoming.

I'm a little hurt by that.

I love it.

In One's Own Position, basically what that first part says, there is no truth, so let go of everything and just sort of ooze together into this amorphous glob of humanity.

There's no truth, so let go of your stupid truth that's creating walls and dividing us.

Let go of your truth and engage in this constantly evolving global village.

I'm fine with

What's going on there?

Well, I think what I'm referring to is just people have chosen a side and they don't want to acknowledge that.

We need to just look at these documents with the eyes of faith and see the good, see the not so good, see the bad, and be willing to be honest about it.

But clearly, not everyone wants to do that.

And people are entrenched in their ideas.

Well, you know, I guess that's just people, you know.

But we have to joyfully seek the truth and share the truth.

What was the exact point of demarcation on this, Your Excellency?

Tell me why.

Well, as I've said before, Joe, Vatican II is considered to be a valid, the 21st Ecumenical Council of the Church.

And going through De Verbum, honestly, I was a bit surprised.

how much solid, beautiful Catholic truth is there.

But we have to be aware that there are landmines in it that post-Vatican II really people took advantage of.

And that's what we're trying to do from Pillars of Faith is to look at these documents as objectively as possible.

And what I'm learning is, you know, Humanity makes mistakes.

Why would they do that?

you

know, who knows about the encyclical against modernism of Pius X or the oath against modernism.

I mean, since 1967, I didn't take it.

I tried to live it, but I didn't take the oath against modernism.

And, you know, very few priests still working today.

I mean, it stopped being required in 1967.

I don't know if some bishops still required it, but it wasn't required by the church, and it soon fell by the wayside.

how do you feel about that number one and number two what do we do about it

I mean, Pope Leo XIII, loved this work he paid out of his own pocket to have it translated into italian so this is legit it's very good and i couldn't recommend it enough your excellency again thank you for your extra time here today what was what was what was ecuador like in general i've never been down to south america i've always wanted to go but what was ecuador like and what how is the faith there how is the faith of the of the uh the nuns still there how is the faith of the people there

Well, Ecuador is a nice country.

It's very where we were.

Quito is basically two miles of elevation, so it's pretty hilly and you can feel the hills because we're not getting the oxygen I'm used to.

But Ecuador is a nice place and beautiful churches, really a great heritage of faith.

But I'd have to say very much like I think the participation of the faithful is probably stronger than maybe some of the places we hear about in Europe.

But...

yeah

Um, can you tell us why you, why you did that and what you said?

said?Yeah.

Thank you, Tucker.

Um, well, really, a- again, you know, I'm a simple guy, and it comes down to basic, simple truth ultimately.

Truth is simple.

Yes, it's deep, it's rich, it's hard to fathom, but it's not complicated in the way that our world is so often complicated.

As you said, I think Kari was removed because they didn't like the truth she was speaking, the truth about Gaza, which is verboten by many.

Do you see God moving as a counterbalance to that? Do you see God moving more as evil becomes more obvious?

Can I ask you to explain to the audience, um, what you meant by reading that out and whether the reaction to that was what you had expected it to be?

Well, thank you, Ben.

Um, that was, I guess, two years ago, approximately, the end of October in 2023, really shortly before I was removed.

Some people pointed to that and said, "Oh, that's why they removed him," but, you know, long before that, the decision had been made that I was a disruptor and that, you know, they needed to silence me, but I've, I've done my best to not be silent, to still joyfully proclaim Christ and His truth.

He is truth.

But, um, using that word "usurper" that was actually quoting a letter that I received from a dear friend that I deeply respect, um, so I believe what this friend meant, and w- the reason I quoted it, is not some, not to get into a question of was Pope Francis a valid pope, um, but really the deeper question, I believe, was he validly and responsibly acting as, speaking as, living as the vicar of Christ? We're talking about now a man who is deceased.

So as Catholics, we pray for the dead.

How did you find out about it?

Sure.

But McCarrick, the problem with McCarrick, and- and honestly, Glenn, the last time I was in Rome, I spoke...

We were there.

The Texas bishops were there on what's called an ad limina.And I asked...

The last time I spoke to Pope Francis, I asked a question.

I said, "Holy Father, can you tell us about the McCarrick Report?" It hadn't come out yet.

And so Pope Francis answered that question, but what the McCarrick Report didn't do, i- i- it...

So if we have a more progressive pope, does that set the church back?