It's great to have you back.

Hey, Tony, great to see you.

And I, you know, Tony and I saw each other last week in Iowa when we were there to support zach lane at an a political rally there which was a really energetic and just a terrific experience to meet him and and robert f kennedy jr secretary kennedy was there also and a number of other people's and honeycutt was was there a number of other people were there and there was just there was a tremendous amount of just beautiful energy And I completely agree with you, Tony.

Any link to what happened last night to the Maha movement is just completely fantastical and spurious.

If anything, I think things would have been worse in the absence of the Maha movement.

And it certainly caught me by surprise.

I know there was a lot of...

I'm grateful that you came on today, that you said all those great words and hope that you'll join us in this powerful revolution that I think is starting right now.

Joe, so great to have you back.

Always great to see Tony.

I love the guy.

It's like what's full in my head right now.

And I love these calls and I wanna echo some of the great words and messages that Cali Means was just sharing.

I think he's right on.

I know Cali's been in the trenches with Bobby Kennedy before the beginning, in fact, before Bobby was even Secretary of Health.

And Joe, just thank you so much from the bottom of my heart for everything you've done.

Watch this.

What I'm most excited about is is an announcement that we're going to make that we're making now, which is that.

The Florida Department of Health, in partnership with the governor, is going to be working to end all vaccine mandates in Florida.

All of them.

All of them.

Every last one of them is wrong and drips with disdain and slavery.

Who am I as a government?

What is the process? Do you need a consensus? Do you want a consensus? Do you want support? How do you go about getting that?

So thanks, Joe, and great to have you on again.

Thanks, Tony, and great to be speaking with everybody.

Great to hear Mary Holland.

And I mean, this whole this whole issue in Pennsylvania, it's just it's like outrageous.

I mean, it's so outrageous how people there there there are literally some of these political leaders are literally

salivating for measles deaths.

just so they can use it as a political weapon to try and get people to comply.

And when Mary was talking about these Amish communities, it breaks my heart that so many political leaders are trying to separate them from their ancient traditions.

And I'm curious what you were doing before that call in Los Angeles, what life was like, and how that call may have changed your trajectory.

Yeah, yeah, boy, I will always remember that day.

So we lived out in West LA, beautiful area, It's a beautiful part of town for anyone who's spent time in L.A., they know.

And we were in Brentwood.

And at that time, I was a professor at UCLA's.

And I mostly did research, NIH-funded research.

And I also took care of patients.

What was being done with the lockdowns and stuff that you disagreed with? And what was your prescription for a better way in public health?

And I'm curious what you were doing before that call in Los Angeles, what life was like, and how that call may have changed your trajectory.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, boy, I will always remember that day.

So we lived out in West LA.

Beautiful area.

You know, just a, it's a beautiful part of town for anyone who's, has spent time in LA, they know.

And we were in, we were in Brentwood.

What was being done, you know, with the lockdowns and stuff that you disagreed with, and what was your prescription for a better way in public health?

Great to have you on again.

Thanks so much, Tony.

It's great to join you guys.

Happy Fourth of July weekend to everyone.

Special holiday of the most special country in the world, in my opinion.

And

so much, you know, Tony, you started by mentioning this Supreme Court ruling, which I can't understand.

I didn't go to law school.

Doctor, can you explain how we got to a place in America where this is even remotely controversial that parents should be able to decide, that people are against mandates? It's just wild for me as a free American who very much values that freedom to see so many Americans hate it.

it.It's really sad.

And it, and it reminds me...

I'll tell you, Jesse, I didn't know, you know, when I was a kid we had that Presidential Fitness Award.

And I remember being excited about that and, you know, doing pull-ups and doing push-ups and other things.

I didn't know it went away.

And with President Trump trying to bring it back, you had this...

How do we get it back?

What's your response to him?

Yeah.

So, you know, Dr. Rivkes was my predecessor here at the Department of Health.

And, you know, it's a great, there's a lot there.

And I think, first of all, it's important to remember that there are countries out there that don't have vaccine mandates for school.

Sweden is an example of a country like that.

The United Kingdom, I believe, is another example.

for parents, but it seems like you're removing liberty and freedom for the parents of kids who are immunocompromised.

Um, how would you analyze this? What would you tell parents they should do? What would you suggest?

suggest?Yeah.

So, so, you really, we need to ...

I, I, I think that as a parent, I mean, we all wanna do what's best for our children, and one of the ways you do that is, is through that c- that common idea, that fundamental idea of informed consent.

And i- it's just, you, you can't be an honest person and have lived over the last few years and not appreciate that there's some gaps in informed consent.

And, you know, it's always a challenge, but it's particularly a challenge with vaccines.

I mean, that's the, you know ...

Would, would you recommend some vaccines? Would you recommend some not in your standard as you were, if you were an individual's doctor at this point?

When did Florida develop that?

So I actually issued that guidance.

I want to say it was in January 2024.

And we had started by... sort of escalating in terms of groups that we recommended against its use for, including we started with kids and we extended it to young men based on some epidemiologic work that we did here in the department.

And we've extended it further and further and now it's really no one in Florida is, we completely advise against anyone putting it in their bodies.

So I don't know if you have any thoughts about the notion that to this day, I think a lot is going on in the population and we don't have any way to know what, if any of it's an impact of COVID and COVID vaccines.

You're absolutely right.

You're absolutely right.

Exactly what's going on?

Yeah.

This was, this was coming.

This was, I, I was waiting for this to happen.

It had to happen.

And, you know, you think back to the pandemic and you think about how terribly things went with the CDC, a lot of dishonesty about science, a tremendous amount of dishonesty about science, and Americans paid the price with-... you know, with school closures, bad studies supported that, with masking kids, bad studies supported that.

With shutdowns and with promotion of this poison that is, you know, that people call an mRNA COVID-19 vaccine and the CDC's been behind that, you know, like from the beginning.

What are you looking for? Since you've been in the combat of this from the beginning and they tried to destroy you and your career, what would you like to see that could make the case to say, "Okay, here's how we're gonna do it, here's how we're gonna do it in the future and we're going to re-staff with people that understand that." Sir.