How does chanting culture in Australia compare to other parts of the world? Um, I'm curious if, if you, you-- So you're from Brazil, so maybe compare it to some, some, some places in South America and then, and, and, and either start, start in Australia or take it home.

Uh, I think Australia is still to learn the power of collective chanting on the streets.

I mean, if you go to South America, if you go to the Brazil northeast, to Recife or to Olinda, you see people chanting together every single time there is any celebration.

So the collective singing is very important, and Australia is stillUh, learning, same as in football.

There are so many places if you go to Turkey, South America, North Africa, where people gather in stadium to sing for the, for their team, to learn how to protest, to make political demonstrations inside the stadium against authorities or, or police repression a- and things like that.

And I think Australians are ... choose to, to, to, to learn how to sing together every single time.

What do we see in countries like Brazil or Argentina when it comes to the national teams?

I think there is a huge difference because in Brazil, if you talk about, uh, clubs supporting, this is where the, I would say, the real supporters are.