Was the pathway always to study and ride BMX or was the study just a pathway to get to do BMX?

A bit of both.

I mean, I think a lot of people, they race BMX and then they don't really have a backup plan or a plan after racing.

Unfortunately, we're in a sport where it doesn't set you up for life, no matter how successful you are in your career.

Unfortunately, not like other sports like motocross and things like that when you're on million dollar contracts.

And so, I mean, studying was a way of having something other than BMX.

And as well as you don't train for 12 hours in a day no i mean i'm i'm someone who will just overthink everything if i can try if i train for the three hour period in the day and then i sit there twiddling my thumbs but nothing else for the rest of the hours in the day and i'm just overthinking everything in regards to everything in bmx

And how did that come about? Did you approach them or did they approach you?