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Jordan

May 26, 2026

ErikaGUEST
6:30
Yeah.
JordanGUEST
6:30
Hawaiians have a rich history.
JordanGUEST
6:32
Pearl Harbor, a lot of great American history, too.
JordanGUEST
6:35
So, you know, it's just a fun way to enhance your trip, and you can do fun stuff, too, like go on a, with a local guided tour.
JordanGUEST
6:41
You talk about talking to locals, like, it's a great way to, like, really meet somebody is go on a guided tour.
JordanGUEST
6:46
They share their life story.
JordanGUEST
6:47
They share all this, like, local pidgin and, you know, hidden gems around the islands, and they know what to share.
ErikaGUEST
10:50
Yeah
8:18
[laughs]
JordanGUEST
8:18
That's a lot.
JordanGUEST
8:19
Um, I think that, I mean, what I especially loved about filming it was our chemistry and, like, the fun we had as a group.
JordanGUEST
8:28
And I think that that is the kind of thing that you can't ...
JordanGUEST
8:31
I mean, you can write a great script, but you can't, you can't manufacture that.
JordanGUEST
8:35
That-
8:35
Yeah
JordanGUEST
8:35
... that natural chemistry, that flow, that, like, there were a lot of, like, really comedic moments, which for me, whenever I watch a horror film, I love any moment where comedy can kind of peek through.
3:06
What were some of the big a-ha moments for you guys at that point in time? Well, one, what's the dynamic between the partnership? Like, who owns what parts of the business?
JordanGUEST
3:13
So I guess as of Monday this week, we just hired a, a dispo manager, so I was doing dispo for-
3:19
Nice
JordanGUEST
3:19
... um, this past year, and then also, uh, managing all of our projects, our flips.
24:59
What about you, Jordan?
JordanGUEST
25:00
Well, yeah.
JordanGUEST
25:02
I, you know, you're right.
JordanGUEST
25:04
There's always some more we could do.
JordanGUEST
25:07
Uh, when it comes down to it, though, as far as being able to protect myself, absolutely.
JordanGUEST
25:12
Um, I am actually teaching Chris how to hunt.
JordanGUEST
25:16
We both can fish, so I know that would probably be one of my main roles, um, just between the two of us, is being able to sustain as far as food.
25:40
But you got the skills
12:08
So mistake number five would be 50% of your cost to lodging.
JordanGUEST
12:13
We, we like to do budgets and do articles and videos and like, how much a trip to Hawaii costs.
JordanGUEST
12:17
We do it for ourselves, too.
JordanGUEST
12:18
And like, one, what we find is like, you know, if, if you do a value trip to Hawaii, mid-range or even a luxury trip, right, that lodging bucket is just always gonna be around 50% of, of your total trip.
JordanGUEST
12:28
And that's a lot, 50%.
JordanGUEST
12:30
So it's really knowing that, and it's kinda like the nicest, first thing to look at when you're booking a trip to Hawaii is like, all right, where am I gonna stay? Maybe I don't care about lodging.
JordanGUEST
12:36
Maybe I'm gonna be out exploring the islands all day, so I just want a place to put my head, like in a w- you know, a two-star hotel or something, or a vacation rental.
16:35
What would you say about that?
14:38
What, what's stopping that happening?
JordanGUEST
14:42
I think it's the fact that, um, we're only in London, and we're spending a lot on advertising, and we're plateaued on leads.
JordanGUEST
14:54
So even if we spend more on advertising, we don't seem to be getting more leads, um, through Google Ads, let's say, and therefore it's plateauing because we can't get more leads essentially.

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28:31
I don't know if I've helped.
JordanGUEST
28:33
Yeah, a bit.
JordanGUEST
28:34
I mean, I've, I heard other curtain companies on your podcast, and it related a lot.
JordanGUEST
28:39
Um, some of it's slightly different.
JordanGUEST
28:41
But yeah, I think realistically you've got to step back, get other people in, and then reach out to, I don't know, commercial companies really.
JoelHOST
39:26
What was it that changed that for you?
JordanGUEST
39:29
Well, so I...
JordanGUEST
39:31
Brandon was friends with my roommate, who then became my best friend in college.
JordanGUEST
39:36
Uh, they were childhood friends, and she introduced us and was like, "Hey, I think Brandon's a great guy.
JordanGUEST
39:43
You guys would get along really well." And I was like, "No, thank you," because I was interested in another guy.
JordanGUEST
39:48
And I, all throughout college, I was set on him.
JordanGUEST
39:54
I was like, "That, that guy, he's good.
JoelHOST
41:52
[laughs]
Nick
NickHOST
8:57
Yep.
JordanGUEST
8:58
So y- and the same with Bunty, you know.
JordanGUEST
9:01
They kept being in and around that squad, and then they kept pulling late from New South Wales Cup, or they, they've got no consistency and they've got no match fitness.
JordanGUEST
9:09
Bunty went from being, making his debut on the bench to having to go to the starting squad, and then we end up having the worst 15 minutes in the last few years.
JordanGUEST
9:17
Um, so I think conditions and sort of kind of game management, I think that falls more on the coaching staff than actually the players themselves.
JordanGUEST
9:26
So I do feel, um, the jury's out sort of on, on, on Bunty.
JordanGUEST
9:32
Hope for me, I, I, I, yeah, I don't want to see him anywhere near first grade.

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Nick
NickHOST
46:18
Yeah.
7:30
Autre chose à rajouter, Jordan ?
JordanGUEST
7:31
Moi, j'aurais complété aussi que ça a été bien plus qu'un dommage financier qu'il y a eu derrière.
JordanGUEST
7:38
Parce que pour mettre dans le contexte, nous, on a acheté une maison en août 2023.
JordanGUEST
7:41
Et deux mois après l'achat de cette maison, on se rend compte qu'elle est truffée de malfaçons.
11:51
Ouais.
JordanGUEST
11:52
Une fois le virement effectué, le travail a été beaucoup moins efficace, beaucoup moins rapide, voire nul.
JordanGUEST
11:57
Et au moment où j'ai souhaité récupérer ce dossier, en me déplaçant de manière courtoise, je mets un point d'honneur sur ça parce qu'en aucun cas, j'ai manqué de respect.
40:58
Wow.
JordanGUEST
40:59
Um, yeah.
JordanGUEST
41:00
But I feel like, I don't know.
JordanGUEST
41:02
I think when we first started talking too and how she had said that she was not looking for something serious, she had just came out of a relationship, um, I kinda dug into her past a little bit and she, she was very open with me right up front with the guys that she's dated before.
JordanGUEST
41:17
And I don't know.
JordanGUEST
41:18
I, I've been cheated on, so I ended up going through her phone.
JordanGUEST
41:21
I'm kind of all over the place.

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53:20
So then what happens? Because you did this and you didn't feel that guilty, and you got away with it, and everything's fine, do you then continue on?
6:14
... and then, and then go from there.
JordanGUEST
6:16
And, and prove that, like, it's of interest to people.
JordanGUEST
6:19
Like, I mean, between us all, I mean especially you, Knox, like, with everything, like, you know, if you can sh- if there's an audience for it and you can show it to them, you know what I mean? And especially off the back of, like, It's a Good Time Now, like, I mean Territory, you know, with whatever happens with that, was, like, so big, and the Yellowstone phenomena and all that sort of thing.
JordanGUEST
6:36
Like, you know, depending what the topic is, like, there's a market for all of it.
JordanGUEST
6:39
And if you can-
9:11
100%.
JordanGUEST
9:11
And, and relating.
JordanGUEST
9:12
And also with that, a more open mind than, say, like, um... 'Cause you know, like, when you go right back to, like, the middle of fucking nowhere with like, in your, like, hometown, stuff like that, like tall poppy syndrome, like we all know where we stand in this fucking world.
11:26
Mm.
JordanGUEST
11:26
Um, but, uh, for me that just wasn't, that wasn't a healthy place for me to be operating in.
JordanGUEST
11:34
Um, the other, the other big thing that was happening, though, was, um, I developed this false metric of health, this kind of false barometer of, um, of health, and that was alcohol.
JordanGUEST
11:49
So alcohol was something that I hid initially in our marriage.
JordanGUEST
11:55
Uh, quit cold turkey after discovery.
JordanGUEST
11:58
Um, and during the good years is when I started to kind of reintegrate alcohol back into my life, and what it was is I, um, I decided that in order for me to be whole and healthy, I needed to have a healthy relationship with alcohol.
JordanGUEST
12:14
So it's not like I wanted to just, like-... go full bore, drink whenever I wanted, all that.

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KateGUEST
38:37
And it was a long conversation.
4:43
I can do it now." And I kept pushing myself, "It's temporary, and I can survive it," and just talking to myself and to be congruent.
JordanGUEST
4:56
Can I give you some anecdotal experiences that I've had with Edi and her story, which is it took her a l- a long time to come to that conclusion, that this experience of surviving Auschwitz, of everything which happened to her from when she was 15 to when she was 18, it wasn't something that at 21 she looked back and said, "Wow, that was a great experience for me.
JordanGUEST
5:24
Look at all the things I learned." That didn't happen for 30 years for her.
JordanGUEST
5:29
And so many people might read Edi's books and might have this experience that while Edi just was able to turn it around, it's not that it happened immediately.
JordanGUEST
5:41
It does take some time.
JordanGUEST
5:43
And the thing which elicited her to make that powerful transformation about that story was Viktor Frankl's work and seeing that he had a- been able to look at that experience for himself as a education.And I believe for Edi, when you read Viktor Frankl's book and you started to understand his perspective, you were able to see that in fact you also had learned something very powerful in those very dark hours.
JordanGUEST
6:16
And since that moment, you went on to become a psychologist, a healer, both of others and yourself, and through giving your wisdom away, you gained the experience to say, "I can look at this not as a tragedy, but as a lesson." And I've only known Edi in the latter half, but when I hear from my mother the stories about Edi in the first stage, she was very guarded about her story.

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12:45
I, I seek to be so that both of us would feel after we are together.
17:35
Mm.
JordanGUEST
17:35
I don't know.
JordanGUEST
17:35
They, uh, the, the f- it has its good emotional moments, and there are good emotional beats in the show.
JordanGUEST
17:40
Uh, Michael J.
JordanGUEST
17:41
Fox is in the show on occasion, and that's kinda interesting how they bring him in, and, you know, so you get an actual real world example of someone in late-stage Parkinson's-

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123:22
Jordan, start with you.
JordanGUEST
123:23
Oh, um, yeah, we file pretty early.
JordanGUEST
123:26
Um, we both claim zero, so we just take as mu- they take it all, and then we get back what we get back.
speaker_22UNKNOWN
37:15
Yeah
JordanGUEST
37:15
... weirdly enough, a lot of these girls that reject me end up calling me back, say like, "Hey, maybe we should give it another shot."
speaker_9UNKNOWN
39:14
... you have anything that you would like to say back to Amanda or ask your AI what to say back?
JordanGUEST
39:19
I, to be honest, Amanda, it's been a while since I've seen you or seen your picture.
JordanGUEST
39:25
Um-
speaker_13PANELIST
32:16
Yeah
JordanGUEST
32:16
... weirdly enough, a lot of these girls that reject me end up calling me back, say like, "Hey, maybe we should give it another shot."
JeffreyHOST
34:26
Yeah?
JordanGUEST
34:27
One way that really jogs my memory is, um, do you still have that nice butt?
29:44
How soon after the divorce did he start contacting you?
JordanGUEST
29:51
So he had kinda been in touch with me a little bit throughout the divorce, just a little bit, texting just here or there, but it really was probably maybe a month after the divorce was totally final that he really started ramping up with his texting.
JordanGUEST
30:07
He would text me, it was almost like on a daily basis at one point, just things like, "I miss you.
JordanGUEST
30:14
I wish we hadn't gotten divorced.
JordanGUEST
30:16
I still love you.
JordanGUEST
30:18
You know, can we still talk? W- we probably shouldn't have actually gotten divorced." Just, you know, those kinds of things.
JordanGUEST
30:25
And I felt, I kinda felt a little bit bad, like I just thought, "Okay, well, he's, he's obviously like having a hard time with being not together anymore." So I just thought, "Oh, he'll, he'll get over it in a few months, like he'll move on." So I just, I didn't really respond.

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39:45
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11:47
[laughs]
JordanGUEST
11:48
Do you know, this story is when E- Edi became a therapist and one of, at the beginning she was being asked to help with patients, and the patients would, they would sort of send it through the corrections facility in Texas.
JordanGUEST
12:04
And this person who came to her was a white supremacist and didn't know, of course, that Edi was Jewish, or he did, probably didn't care.
JordanGUEST
12:13
But anyways, went on to say that he essentially hated everybody other than white people, and Edi had this moment where she had to find out what she could do as a therapist and as a human not to denounce this person, which would then ultimately turn him into a wall, and you're not gonna get anywhere.And so she made this powerful decision after swallowing her, her first instinct to yell at him and beat him and said, "Tell me more." And I think this is a really astute method of getting from somebody what is behind their anger, and it humanizes them, both to them and to you, and it opens the opportunity for them to go deeper into it.
15:41
Um, very many people do call me actually the Anne Frank who didn't die, and I take it as a very wonderful compliment.
JordanGUEST
15:50
You know, I think Edie, Edie was a performer.
JordanGUEST
15:55
And in fact, if you look at her l- life story, it's not a surprise that she's here with us today doing what she's doing.
JordanGUEST
16:03
Because when she was a little girl, she found her strength in being a performer.
speaker_8ADVERTISER
32:03
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JordanGUEST
32:08
Smalls here.
JordanGUEST
32:08
Look, I get it.
JordanGUEST
32:09
GLP-1 weight loss shots are popular.
JordanGUEST
32:11
They're everywhere.
JordanGUEST
32:12
But not everyone is thrilled about weekly injections.
JordanGUEST
32:15
So what if your GLP-1 was as easy to take as a mint? That's why I want you to know about compounded tirzepatide.
35:54
That's right.
0:23
Also, I want to point out, those opinions are subject to change, okay? And yes, I'll have some really fun guests along, like my husband Jordan.
JordanGUEST
0:30
I flew her to Paris.
JordanGUEST
0:32
I was playing in an arena, and she acted like she couldn't give two shits.
0:37
No.
JordanGUEST
0:37
She played it so cool, and I'm like, "What are you-
60:20
Last time he went with Ray, they thought they were gonna go to some place, but they didn't check, so that place was closed, and they ended up at a bodega having an egg sandwich.
JordanGUEST
60:26
You didn't make a reservation?
60:55
There's preparation happening?
JordanGUEST
60:56
We practiced, yes.
27:42
You want the truth? They just want a conviction.
JordanGUEST
27:43
You're placed under arrest.
JordanGUEST
27:44
[dramatic music]
29:51
Doesn't really even make sense.
JordanGUEST
29:53
I agree, but that was the slot that was open post work, so that's-
SnoopHOST
13:04
May we ask you a question? [pigeon coos]
JordanGUEST
13:08
Ah.
JordanGUEST
13:09
Oh, yes, dogs.
JordanGUEST
13:11
You're not going to bark at me, are you?
SniffyHOST
13:40
A cat, perhaps?
JordanGUEST
13:42
[coos] Hmm, hard to remember because I was in and out of sleep.
JordanGUEST
13:48
I definitely didn't see a cat.
JordanGUEST
13:50
Saw two dogs at one point and-
Emma EicherCORRESPONDENT
28:36
These adjustments are becoming common.
JordanGUEST
28:39
I just went to lunch at Burger King, and they have like an actual, like thing on their window talking about the penny shortage, so...
Emma EicherCORRESPONDENT
28:49
One day, a new button on the register appeared, allowing her to automatically round an item price up or down to the nearest nickel.
JordanGUEST
28:57
And so then, um, we discussed it with like our managers, and they were like, "Yeah, this is, you know, what's happening.
JordanGUEST
29:04
You know, it's for the penny shortage."
3:46
Spooked.
JordanGUEST
3:59
[eerie music] It's half-past midnight.
JordanGUEST
4:09
I'm out here by myself on the catwalk, standing my watch, doing my lookout.
JordanGUEST
4:18
This is a Famous-class cutter, bow to stern 270 feet long, white with the famous US Coast Guard orange racing stripe on the front.
JordanGUEST
4:31
At this point, the ship is off the coast of New England.
JordanGUEST
4:34
Even being late spring, it's still pretty cold.
JordanGUEST
4:39
The wind is blowing.

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Carol DodaSOUNDBITE_SPEAKER
31:47
I, I don't, uh, particularly like it.

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