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Um, and that's what they go back to and, and it's, it's, it's very diff- difficult to, to, to play against a team with that much challenge and culture.

And a lot of their players come from very, like, tough places.

And we have tough places in England, but there's nothing like, um, what some of their players have.

Um, they have the apartheid and that history.

Um, they've got a lot of poverty, a lot of crime.

Um, a lot of them are very religious as well.

Do you remember why your form was so good? What you remember?

John, choose your door wisely.

Um, no, I think it is, I think it is a rock bottom moment.

Rugby has that ability just to chop y- anybody's legs off at any point, and can smack you back down to earth, and that is what's happened.

Um, and it's, it's, it's, it's very hard to explain and understand because, um, we were doing so well, and it's just been a bit, i- in my opinion, just a bit of a perfect storm, um, to think we were flying high and, and, and, and this great team with these young guys, and we're building to a World Cup, and there's Grand Slam chat, and it probably got a bit carried away with that.

Um, and then we go up to Scotland off the back of Scotland losing to Italy.

Attend.

Uh, je pense que pour le, le match Angleterre-France, uh, ce weekend est très, très dur match pour Angleterre.

Um, je sais, je sais, uh, France équipe, uh, avoir deception depuis le match contre Écosse, uh, dernière, dernière semaine.