10%?

10% because Devins, Christian, and Emily did not tell me who they voted for.

And I thought Devins respected my game more than that, and that one threw me, and I thought, "If Devins vote for me, votes for me, then that means that they might all vote together," and then I went down this rabbit trail because the pr- producers even told me after I told them.

I said, "It's over.

It's Summation.

I know, uh, Aubrey's got friends in the jury.

I know." It didn't matter necessarily how I played at that point, uh, because I think that she had a good relationship with most of them.

It is still such a huge amount of your soul that is hoping to get that prize.

Can we set the record straight on those rumors and what the truth is with this Zoom alliance?

Yeah, so the thing is, I don't know if you know this, but about everybody talks.

Newsflash, everybody talks.

So whatever anybody says, I think that's partial grief and it's partial bitterness just trying to start things that their game looks better and that they weren't a part of something.

But the truth is people talk after the game, before the game, during the game, so all that's just hearsay and it's, it's not even worth talking about, bro.

Were there questions from the jury then that you were surprised we didn't get to see on TV from that final tribal council?

Oh, yeah.

There were several.

Thinking back, is, is there anything that you could've said that you think could've persuaded any other votes, or was everybody locked in?

No.

There was nothing I could've said at final tribal that would've got any of them to vote for me, because they...

It was already locked in.

I mean, you have five years, five seasons of watching Miss Aubry, and I think that's what happened, was that piled up.

Instead of it being more of a, what happened this season, you have an underdog story of Aubry, and that's, those past seasons combined with this season, I can't compete with.

... to you, though, to be able to come back and at least exercise one demon of, that you won the final four fire-making?

Oh, Mr.

Thinking back, is, is there anything that you could've said that you think could've persuaded any other votes, or was everybody locked in?

No.

There was nothing I could've said at final tribal that would've got any of them to vote for me, because they, it was already locked in.

I mean, you have five years, five seasons of watching Miss Aubry, and I think that's what happened, was that piled up.

Instead of it being more of a, "What happened this season?" You have an underdog story of Aubry, and that's, those past seasons combined with this season, I can't compete with.

And that's just, and, and, and should it be combined with this season? That's up to you and the fans to decide.

It's not up for me to decide.

... to you, though, to be able to come back and at least exorcise one demon of that you won the final four fire-making?

Did you consider that at all? Or, I mean, you ended up getting their votes over him, so.

I thought about that.

I thought about splitting votes with, uh, with Joe.

But at the end of the day, I had a feeling that they would think that I played a better game than Joe.

Um, I did not think...

I knew Aubry would probably win as soon as the ball dropped in Somotion, if I'm being honest.

I knew that it was pretty much over, because in today's Survivor game, you can't compete with an underdog story that's five seasons long.

Talk to me about that and what was going through your, your body, your mind at that moment.

four.

Yeah, just a handful.

So Mr.

Rob wrote me a letter before I came out here and he said, open it on the plane.

So I opened it and he gave me three things of advice.

Number one is to smile.

Number two is to look through the game, look at the game through the opponent's eyes.

And while the new era might be perceived as like, you know, all the new cast get along with each other and go to all these events together, do you feel, for lack of a better term, out on an island compared to all the people from 45 onwards out here?