Or Mineral.

Yeah.

Yeah, 100%.

Like I said, so that band did a lot of touring, played with a lot of bands.

When we shifted from being a true punk rock band that I would say was 100% in sort of Face to Face would probably be the closest thing I could describe that kind of matched the sound we were doing.

And interestingly enough, you mentioned Coalesce.

When I first joined that band, the bass player was brothers with s- so his name was Wade Hill.

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