Right.

You know, I, I...

And like some of the things that he's talking about, like how, like with a gay pattern, sometimes the ribs are, uh, like g- alternating going the other way, and like certain things he's talking about, like, okay, like I don't know if I would've thought of that just where my mind is, what I do.

So I mean, he ob- he obviously understands shit and he helps people, and there's value to what he brings to the world.

I mean, he, he, he helps people.

I mean, he helps people get out of pain, so I, I'll never like think that that's a terrible thing.

I just think that, I think he could help more people if he was less dogmatic about it, and maybe, like, [chuckles] was just a little less like the way he is on social media [chuckles] and stuff.

... as opposed to, like, actually watching them move and, and seeing how they present.