So I mean, there's always a story behind Lyme, uh, that n- nobody wakes up one morning just kind of for the fun of it, "I'm, I'm gonna start, you know, addressing Lyme." But what, what kinda made you step into this world?

Yeah, you're exactly right 'cause, you know, I've, I've taught other, other practitioners and I, you know, I, I talk to a lot of people and, you know, chronic illness is not for the faint of heart when you go into treating it.

And so, uh, it, it kinda chooses you, doesn't it? And so, uh, my story, you know, it, it happened back in 2003 and, uh, at that point, my brand-new wife got really sick.

And, you know, like most young people, you don't know why, and so you just go to doctor to doctor.

And, and that really sick looked like, you know, fatigue.

It looked like, uh, odd anxiety attacks, you know, in the middle of the night type things.

And, um, you know, you're just sitting there enjoying your family, and all of a sudden it just hits you out of nowhere.

Why in that direction?