of labelled it, haven't we? Like a ghost is just a thing that you see, you know, sometimes.

Exactly.

We talk about ghosts in the residual, don't we? So these ghosts which we think of like being a part of a recording in the building, you know, And then there are things which the church might label demons, which are essentially some kind of spirits that have never really been born.

The Islamic people call...

The Islamic people often call jinn these spirits that sort of...

And then there are things we call ghosts, which...

I think we would sort of say...

Okay, if somebody came to you and told you they'd seen a ghost and you knew, sorry, and you knew they were honest and a sensible person who generally believed what they'd seen, What would you actually think? Would you be inclined to believe them or would you need something more before you could accept that it might be real?