What was that moment like for you when you suddenly realized that, hey, I want to do this for myself? It

was in my about seventh or eighth year at Simon & Schuster.

I had been reporting to the CEO and things were going really well.

We had some big successes.

We had published the Duck Dynasty books in 2013 when they were blowing up and had an incredible year.

And our CEO said, hey, I'm going to have you report to somebody else because I'm trying to simplify my direct reports.

And the person that I started reporting to in New York just did not get what I was trying to do with the publishing.

But