
Jonathan Losos
American evolutionary biologist and herpetologist
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Oct 13, 2026
Decoding the Meow: What Your Cat Is Trying To Tell You
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2:25Jonathan LososGUEST
And again, people who live with cats know that they make different meows in different contexts.
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And clearly they're trying to tell us different things by the way they meow.
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2:35Jonathan LososGUEST
But the question is, is there a cat language that we just need to decipher? And there was actually a researcher about 20 years ago now who decided to investigate that.
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And what he did was he did a project where he went to people's houses and met their cats and then got those cats to meow in several different situations.
118. Insect Protein, Cat Evolution & The Future of Pet Wellness
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10:55Kristen LevineHOST
Uh, what have these lizards taught us about how e-evolution happens?

Jonathan LososGUEST
Well, the reason that, that I've spent my career studying them, as have many other people, is two things.

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There are 400 species of them found throughout their range, yes, and as many as 15 species can occur in one place.

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Um, so they're a great evolutionary success story, and there's particularly interesting aspects of how species have adapted to the environment multiple times in the same way.

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For example, you have species on Cuba, Jamaica, uh, Hispaniola, and Puerto Rico all using the same type of habitat, and they've evolved the same adaptations to do that.
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14:26Kristen LevineHOST
Um, what does that mean from an evolutionary perspective when, when we hear that, you know, cats domesticated themselves?
Crazy Cat Lady
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Jonathan LososGUEST
They're not very different from their ancestor, which is something called the African wildcat, Whereas most of the domestic animals with which we live are quite different.

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They haven't changed very much at all, which means they can also revert back to living a wild existence relatively easily.

Jonathan LososGUEST
It's been sort of a wild west of studies showing all kinds of possibilities.
The Surprising History of the 7-Day Week & How and Why Cats Evolved into Pets - SYSK Choice
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35:50Mike CarruthersHOST
And somebody said, "Let's go get that cat and make it a pet," or it had some other agricultural purpose, or h- what was the path to domestication?

Jonathan LososGUEST
Well, the probable path, and this is actually very hard to, to study actually, but what, what seems very likely is that when people started living in villages and growing crops, and, you know, agriculture really took off, well, as, as you know, when, when farmers grow crops, there's the good season and the bad season.

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So you grow as much food as you can when the seasons are right, and then you store the food for the rest of the v- rest of the year in granaries or whatever.Well, when that happens, uh, the logical y- obviously what happens next is that rodents are attracted.

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Mice and rats see this bounty of food in this building that they can easily, you know, go through the walls, and so they start...

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Well, in turn, uh, African wildcats are no dummies and they realize there's all this, these choice yummy rodents right there, and so they are attracted to, uh, to live around the villages.
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38:50Mike CarruthersHOST
Th- that they, th- they might be good to have around outside, but, but at some point, who was it that said, "Well, you know, let's have him live here."
