Because it seems to me like the veneer of civilization's pretty thin, and people can get violent pretty quickly.

I'm not saying that.

I mean, o- one of the interesting things, uh, well, I guess there's several different [chuckles] answers to what you're saying.

The first is, you know, a lot of the book is, is, uh, based on recent scientific research and, and, uh, as a number of people have noted, the book has fifty pages of notes.

It doesn't...

I didn't use superscripts.

You won't see a superscript.

So what has been the criticism or response to the book that has either annoyed you the most because you think it's unfair or that has caused you to do a sort of, "Hmm, I sh-- I need to think about that more"?

[laughs] Yes, greatly

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but, um, um, in my lifetime, there were actually six families of primates, and one was called, um, uh, one is composed of the tree shrews.

And at some point people said, "Well, you know, tree shrews actually have claws, so they probably shouldn't be in this order, though they do live in trees and they do eat tree leaves." Uh, and they were moved, and they were put into a separate order called Scandentia.

Um, but humans remain in the primate order, but we don't act like primates.

We're not, uh, even that close anatomically to primates.

Of course, we're closer to...

So when we talk about this primate model, this theory, what have been some of the negative consequences of believing modern humans are the direct descendants of the primate, primitive primates?