And a lot of that falls to Pete Hegseth, and his response to that is, "I'm gonna hold a public execution." A- and I am so appalled by this, and I want your take on it.

Well, so I, I will go on the record as being an opponent of the death penalty.

As I wrote in this morning's TFN, I don't understand how politicians who dedicate their careers to the notion of waste, fraud, and abuse in the distribution of food stamps think that the government is, however, trustworthy enough to decide who, uh, should die and then to make that happen, uh, sometimes even successfully.

So yeah, I'm an anti-death penalty person generally.

My other probably more controversial position is that if we do have public exec- ex- excuse me, if we do have executions, they should be public, and I have a number of, of arguments to, to, uh, support that position, some of which I might even remember now if you press me on them.

But in this case, what I reported this morning was the fact that...

First of all, just so people know if they don't already, executions haven't been done publicly since 1936.

Mm-hmm.