Is that fair?

That's super fair.

Yeah, I mean, kind of what we say, and this isn't what our website says, I'll note.

Our website says we're integrated fundraising and marketing because that's what our customers want.

Not our customers, but the market is looking to purchase, right? Because they don't have a vision for this categorically yet.

But yeah, I think that that's really fair.

What we generally position as is give your donor an experience with your organization that's worthy of their donation and their continued support, right? Right.

And