I think

my mind goes everywhere and nowhere all at the same time.

It's such a broad area that is not well understood by many.

So I think that the power of AI, we have to realize that you have to use AI to gain or maintain your competitive advantage.

Absolutely have to.

And we have to move beyond the use of generative AI in most operational use cases.

Generative AI is great for sales, marketing, writing policies, procedures, things of that nature, getting a better email out the door.

So you obviously have a really cool background, you know, so how do we get from, well, how do we get from young John to F-16s to a bank CISO? Like, how did you get into cybersecurity?