[laughs]

Kids, listen to me.

Right.

So you think media pays a lot of money.

Yes, it does on a, on a day rate, but you're not working every day, and you're not getting private medical insurance or a company car or, or a pension.

Whereas my boring old job, uh, a blue chip company and I'm a senior manager, that really pays quite well, and I have the company car, the phone, the-

It's his pool

... his field in Gloucestershire.

... got everyone on side

... that I played with them.

Very early on, I realized that they weren't able to...

They weren't allowed to have a normal conversation with me.

They were only obv...

It was obvious to me that they were only allowed to say certain phrases, and when they showed me that phone box that they had to sit in, wall to ceiling, six foot high, just cue cards with, "If a contestant says this, this is what you must reply with." So I used to go in the diary room just for my own amusement, spend two hours in there, getting, trying to get them, manipulate them till the point they would say one of the phrases they'd used on a previous day.

I used to call it wor- a phrase of the day.

Yeah.