In the early 90s, was it easy to find the soil scientists or the soil biologists that could answer your questions very well?

Yes.

One of them was Dr. Christine Nichols, who worked for ARS in Mandan.

And when I realized who she was, and that she was right there in Mandan, I started to communicate with her and the soil conservation districts in that area of the state had a little research farm of their own that was right adjacent to ARS.

And so they used ARS scientists to help them in what they were doing.

And their push was to see if no-till would work.

And so that's what they were doing.

Could you kind of give us the Reader's Digest version of that article and kind of what you found in writing that article and how you came up with that? Because it's a really important thing to understand that your field may be performing, but just because it has tons of fertility doesn't mean that it's actually functioning.