But I Well, a lot has changed, and I agree,

Claire, with everything you said.

In other words, your word, Nigel, normalizing, it's changing at the moment.

So the way we think about climate change from investment to insurance across all the different episodes that you've recorded has evolved, is evolving, but we're on a journey.

And it feels to me it's gone from a what does this mean and a bit of a sideshow to starting now to become more integrated issues.

into business.

But I think we're still at an early stage on that journey.

But with an intelligent